RE: increasing the number of econ majors

From: Cash, Sean (scash@ualberta.ca)
Date: Wed Apr 05 2006 - 12:36:35 CDT

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    Hi Martin,
     
    Your point is well taken. I suspect that the comments regarding
    "adjuncting out" refer in part to the practice of handing open class
    assignments to any warm body (including at larger univeristies, senior
    Ph.D. students in need of some teaching experience), and was probably
    (hopefully!) not intended to overemphasize the distinction between
    permanent staff and those high-quality, regular instructors who just
    happen to work on contract.
     
    That being said, I think there still may be some differences that arise
    in generality (although certainly not in every instance). Permanent
    staff have more incentives to build a program by increasing the number
    of majors -- so even if the teaching quality is high, the level of
    recruitment effort may be different. And if adjunct teaching faculty do
    not have Ph.D.s, it may send a signal to the students about the quality
    of the program. For better or worse, the percentage of faculty with
    terminal degrees is considered a quality benchmark in many
    circumstances.
     
    In the case of our Department, one of our best recruiters is an adjunct
    who teaches across several departments. He frequently directs his keen
    students to our programs, regardless of the department where that course
    is based.
     
    - Sean
     
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    Department of Rural Economy
    University of Alberta
    515 General Services Building
    Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H1 Canada
    (780) 492-4562
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    scash@ualberta.ca
     
     

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    From: marteenm [mailto:marteenm@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:10 AM
    To: tch-econ@elon.edu
    Subject: RE: increasing the number of econ majors

    >When we adjunct out a principles course to enable sabbatical or other
    teaching >releases, declared majors dip markedly the following year or
    two.
     
    Now, as an "adjunct" I am not sure how I feel about this comment. It
    seems to have a bit of inconsistency in it. If the goal is to have the
    best instructors teaching principles classes then it shouldn't matter if
    the instructor is full- or part-time. I make a living teaching both at
    community colleges and universities and consistently receive very strong
    student evaluations (which, I must confess, is not necessarily the best
    way of accessing ability). I feel my contribution to sparking interest
    in my students is just as important as anyone (fulltime or part-time) in
    the classroom.
     
    Now, I completely agree with the notion that heavy reliance on adjunct
    instructors can produce inconsistency in teaching performance due to
    heavy instructor turnover. However, putting this issue aside, I feel the
    adjunct angle is not relevant.
     
    - Martin Medeiros
     

    "Ruder, Phil" <ruder@pacificu.edu> wrote:

            For us, staffing the principles courses with our best teachers
    has been
            the single most important factor. When we adjunct out a
    principles
            course to enable sabbatical or other teaching releases, declared
    majors
            dip markedly the following year or two.
            
            I love Lisa Daniels idea and will begin doing that next week!
            
            ---
            Phil Ruder
            Associate Professor of Economics
            Pacific University
            Forest Grove, Oregon
            ruder@pacificu.edu
            
            
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Martha L. Olney [mailto:molney@econ.Berkeley.EDU]
            Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:04 AM
            To: James Lacey
            Cc: Teach-Econ
            Subject: Re: increasing the number of econ majors
            
            
            Have the best profs in the department teaching principles and
    lighting
            the
            fire of passion.
            
            Martha
            
            On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, James Lacey wrote:
            
    > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:23:02 -0400
    > From: James Lacey
    > To: Teach-Econ
    > Subject: increasing the number of econ majors
    >
    > I was talking with some colleagues at another school, who
    mentioned
    > that they are concerned with the declining number of economics
    majors
    > at their school. For the profs, this means that they teach
    mostly
    > micro and macro principles courses, and mostly to business
    majors.
    > Upper level courses are still offered for the small number of
    econ
    > majors. If the numbers continue to decline, there is the
    concern that
    > the major will be discontinued, along with many of the upper
    level
    > courses.
    >
    > Any recommendations or success stories to share about how you
    > increased the number of econ majors at your school?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Jim Lacey
    > Hesser College
    > --
    > jwlacey@gmail.com
    >
            
            
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            Martha L. Olney
            Adjunct Professor of Economics
            
            University of California MOlney@econ.berkeley.edu
            Department of Economics http://socs.berkeley.edu/~olney
            549 Evans Hall, #3880 Office: 510-642-6083
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