RE: Relative prices of grades of gasoline

From: Antony Davies, Ph.D. (antony@antolin-davies.com)
Date: Tue Sep 13 2005 - 06:43:40 CDT

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    I don't disagree with your experience. I've had the same (my 92 Tracker ran
    much better on premium than regular). I've also had the reverse (after
    replacing the engine (for reasons unrelated to fuel grade), I found no
    difference between premium and regular). I tell my students that economic
    theory is less about individual behavior than about aggregate behavior. As
    long as there are some (some = "not too small a population") people who
    perceive equal performance between premium and unleaded, we'll get the
    substitution effect I described.

    Antony

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brian Eggleston [mailto:egglesto@augie.edu]
    Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:22 PM
    To: antony@antolin-davies.com; tch-econ@elon.edu; dcoffin@iun.edu
    Subject: RE: Relative prices of grades of gasoline

    I don't think it is any more likely that the Chevy driver would use premium
    than it would be for the Lexus driver to use regular. I think these markets
    are fairly well segmented.

    You seem to yet maintain that there's really only a perceived difference
    between regular and premium's quality. I think that's empirically false.

    I'm quite critical and more than a bit cynical at times. I'm acutely
    sensitive to hype. I truly wish my vehicles ran as well on regular as on
    premium but they simply do not.

    Brian Eggleston

    >>> "Antony Davies, Ph.D." <antony@antolin-davies.com> 09/12/05 8:41 PM
    >>> >>>

    Where high-end car owners are concerned, it may not matter whether or not
    premium and regular grades are of equal quality. The perceived risk
    (exemplified by the "detuning" you mention) is higher for the Lexus driver
    than for the Chevy driver. Thus, the Lexus driver will be less apt to switch
    in response to the price differential anyway.

    Here's something else of note. While the price ratio of premium to regular
    has been falling, the price ratio of premium to diesel has remained
    relatively constant. This is at least consistent with the premium-regular
    substitute argument in that one does not have the option of putting diesel
    in a car that takes premium. Hence, we would not expect the premium/diesel
    price ratio to fall.

    Antony Davies

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brian Eggleston [mailto:egglesto@augie.edu]
    Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:47 PM
    To: antony@antolin-davies.com; tch-econ@elon.edu; dcoffin@iun.edu
    Subject: RE: Relative prices of grades of gasoline

    With all due rerspect, I seriously question this explanation. "Premium" and
    "regular" are simply not good substitutes. Many vehicles (including Audi,
    VW, BMW, SAAB) require premium. They will of course run on "regular" but
    the "computer" detunes the engine such that performance (including mpg)
    suffers. Performance matters to the kind of people inclined to buy the types
    of vehicles which require "premium." I know this from personal experience.
    There IS a difference in quality.

    Brian Eggleston
    Associate Professor & Chair
    Department of Economics
    Augustana College
    Sioux Falls, SD 57197

    >>> "Antony Davies" <antony@antolin-davies.com> 09/12/05 4:57 PM >>>
    I can't speak to the constant 20 cent delta. However, the declining relative
    price can be explained via monopolistic competition. As the price of premium
    rises, consumers have greater incentive to try the lower-priced competing
    brand (i.e. regular gas). [Note: Brand <> "brand name," but "attribute
    bundle."] When they do, most find no real difference in quality. Those
    consumers never switch back to regular (even when the prices return to their
    original levels). The result is a series of declines in demand for premium
    accompanied by increases in the demand for regular -- each step in the
    series caused by a spike in the price of gas. The long run result is that
    the price ratio approaches one.

    Antony Davies

    -----Original Message-----
        From: "Coffin, Donald"<dcoffin@iun.edu>
        Sent: 9/12/05 5:41:30 PM
        To: "Teaching Econ Discussion List (E-mail)"<tch-econ@elon.edu>
        Subject: Relative prices of grades of gasoline
        
        
        One of the things I've noticed, over the past year-and-a-half or so is
        that the price of premium gasoline has declined relative to the price of
        regular. At least where I am. (The numbers are sounded.)
        
                        Early 2004 Now
        Regular $1.80 $3.00
        Premium $2.00 $3.20
        
        Rel.P 1.11 1.07
        
        A couple of questions. Is this just a Midwest phenomenon? Does anyone
        have a reasonably convincing explanation of the unchanged absolute price
        differential (even further in the past, the money prices were about $1
        for regular and about $1.20 for premium)? Is there any evidence of a
        shift from regular to premium as the relative price of premium has
        declined?
        
        It makes for an interesting discussion in class, by the way.
        Don Coffin
        



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